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Post  Xarai on Fri May 04, 2012 10:00 am

I come on every day for hours on end cause it's the one server I can build on and get respect and admiration for my builds as well as conversate with great people and even more so great builders. I don't want to moderate I just want to build and have a good time like everyone else does, well except for the occasional griefer not their kind of fun. I like and respect all experts for their rank and achievemnent and usually only argue with them as bad as I have is because I see something I don't think is right and I wouldnt feel right If I didn't defend the little man at least a little. I may not really help the person but at least it's being discussed about.
I don't want to be banned but rather be put on probation or a trial period.

My current actions are the following
FrancoM was demoted for what I was told for not knowing how to moderate which as to my knowledge is the highest NON moderating rank. I did not cuss or get offensive I just stated I didnt think it was right to an expert and yes I kept going on I wanted that topic into a moderators discussion. Some of Us don't want to mod we just want to build talk have a good time So I thought this was highly unfair however the reason was corrected to me and I changed my arguement and pretty much shutup I agreed on it, this was after talking to lsotie, shepp, and johnson It was nice getting a response about the matter

The matter about narne she got fully demoted down to novice even tho I was defending her Honestly I did not see her grief me and her were following numb do all the work, heck I went on forums to report and get someone on forums adept+ to help with the matter because numb was pupil untouchable to us artisans and noone was on smp or team speak I checked both places. I know narne wouldnt grief especially like that. I didn't see her grief anything however I did go on forums taking up the screen but even then I don't think it was physically her and she didn even get to refute right away or explain actions

However right now as it looks the "punishment" somewhat fits the crime mason until a week isn't that bad its a precautionary measure which I can fully understand. But I do not agree with me being fully banned mason or pupil maybe til I calm down and prove I can be mature and proper but a ban doesnt seem right for arguing a point of view. and again I msotly argue to get it discussed and see if its a less severe sentence I argued until I heard from anrne on team speak that she became mason

And as far as the irc thign goes mr hole digger (not mr digger) was my friend jeremy whom is spending the night he plays minecraft joined on irc to see the arguements on his pc so i dnt gotta yell across the room same IP as mine since he is obviously on my network
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Re: All About Xarai

Post  Pedobear on Fri May 04, 2012 10:48 am

I'm going to unban you and give you mason back, but if you think something is abuse, talk it over with another expert/GM, don't go full out rage to the moderator at hand.
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Re: All About Xarai

Post  Voltzahl on Fri May 04, 2012 4:30 pm

Xarai wrote: I like and respect experts
Sorry for dragging out what looks to be finished but this looks like double talk to me because I sat there and saw him say "Experts should learn respect even for lower ranks and they just don't have that down pat" I'll say that these might not have been his exact words but its close and had the same meaning as what he said and I'll say I've never seen any expert+ ever act unjustly disrespectful even to lower ranks and also I find it funny you didn't have a problem with FrancoM's demote reason untill you were muted by the expert that demoted FrancoM. Suspect

If Imp already posted about this somewhere guys just delete this post or tell me to or if you want his exact words I'll dig into my logs. Razz


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Re: All About Xarai

Post  imph on Sat May 05, 2012 4:03 pm

yeah i did post about it in experts area but heres the log for you guys

[2012-05-02 21:53:21] Xarai: lord im defending someone whom i believe was wrongly
[2012-05-02 21:53:22] Xarai: demoted
[2012-05-02 21:53:23] lordocraftmine: you dont have to attack every little thing i
[2012-05-02 21:53:23] > say
[2012-05-02 21:53:38] Xarai: im only attacking because i firmly believe in that
[2012-05-02 21:53:39] lordocraftmine: hey i like fran to but he wasent ready
[2012-05-02 21:53:51] Xarai: if u made a good and stable arguement i wudnt
[2012-05-02 21:53:57] from VoltageXXII: he raged over the muting thing and /ignored
[2012-05-02 21:53:57] > you
[2012-05-02 21:54:06] to VoltageXXII: yeah i know
[2012-05-02 21:54:09] Xarai: and for the first week i hardly knew mod commands
[2012-05-02 21:54:11] Now spectating Xarai. Type /unspec to stop.
[2012-05-02 21:54:19] Joined Main to continue spectating Xarai
[2012-05-02 21:54:19] Joined world Main
[2012-05-02 21:54:28] lordocraftmine: xar fran ranked up in less then a week
[2012-05-02 21:54:35] lordocraftmine: thats pritty fast
[2012-05-02 21:54:39] [Spectate]: /unignore imphoebe
[2012-05-02 21:54:47] imphoebe: lol hi xarai
[2012-05-02 21:54:55] from VoltageXXII: funny i knew and had used mod commands
[2012-05-02 21:54:55] > before being promoted to artisan
[2012-05-02 21:55:07] lordocraftmine: and it doom said he belive fran wasent ready
[2012-05-02 21:55:07] > thats that
[2012-05-02 21:55:07] Xarai: then the reason should have been changed
[2012-05-02 21:55:17] Xarai: he someone isnt ready hey thats a reason
[2012-05-02 21:55:18] imphoebe: ya know,
[2012-05-02 21:55:31] imphoebe: its really not your business
[2012-05-02 21:55:43] Xarai: po as an artisan its my business
[2012-05-02 21:55:44] imphoebe: when youre adept, then it is
[2012-05-02 21:55:53] lordocraftmine: xar dont talk to me about it take it up with
[2012-05-02 21:55:53] > doom see how far you get
[2012-05-02 21:55:55] Xarai: as an artisan it directly affects me
[2012-05-02 21:56:19] Xarai: i liek to see everyone here get along and help
[2012-05-02 21:56:34] imphoebe: well the desicions were made
[2012-05-02 21:56:40] imphoebe: and you were not part of the process
[2012-05-02 21:56:43] VoltageXXII: so why are you not getting along with someone?
[2012-05-02 21:56:44] lordocraftmine: xar fran dammed himself cause hes been
[2012-05-02 21:56:49] imphoebe: because it doesnt concern you
[2012-05-02 21:56:56] lordocraftmine: winning about it since and its just annoying
[2012-05-02 21:56:58] lordocraftmine: everone
[2012-05-02 21:57:12] [Spectate]: /info imphoebe
[2012-05-02 21:57:17] lordocraftmine: hes ticked of lost doom even shep and
[2012-05-02 21:57:17] > lightning
[2012-05-02 21:57:24] lordocraftmine: he screwed himself
[2012-05-02 21:57:39] lordocraftmine: he should have just shut up and accepted it
[2012-05-02 21:57:42] Xarai: yup used it twice
[2012-05-02 21:57:55] lordocraftmine: its frans own fault
[2012-05-02 21:58:13] imphoebe: no its my fault for promoting him too early
[2012-05-02 21:58:15] Xarai: im not sayin he didn deserve the demote
[2012-05-02 21:58:21] Xarai: im sayin th reason stated
[2012-05-02 21:58:32] lordocraftmine: THEN WHY ARGUE
[2012-05-02 21:58:42] Xarai: the reason
[2012-05-02 21:58:46] lordocraftmine: who give a rats tail what the writen reason
[2012-05-02 21:58:46] > was
[2012-05-02 21:58:52] Xarai: lord if u was demoted for i dunno
[2012-05-02 21:59:00] Xarai: imp didn like ur name
[2012-05-02 21:59:05] imphoebe: ?
[2012-05-02 21:59:28] Xarai: i would defend u
[2012-05-02 21:59:39] Xarai: however if u was demoted for breaking rules i wudnt
[2012-05-02 21:59:41] imphoebe: what are you talking about
[2012-05-02 21:59:45] lordocraftmine: the reason is fine xar
[2012-05-02 21:59:55] lordocraftmine: fran didnt even know that /c was
[2012-05-02 22:00:00] [Spectate]: /c
[2012-05-02 22:00:00] lordocraftmine: what*
[2012-05-02 22:00:04] from VoltageXXII: i don't like being a artisan they all whine
[2012-05-02 22:00:05] > in these days
[2012-05-02 22:00:08] lordocraftmine: or cut or up
[2012-05-02 22:00:10] Xarai: i didnt know /c i use /cuboid
[2012-05-02 22:00:11] imphoebe: he also lied about how many commands he knew
[2012-05-02 22:00:18] imphoebe: its /z
[2012-05-02 22:00:25] lordocraftmine: its /c to
[2012-05-02 22:00:29] lordocraftmine: imp
[2012-05-02 22:00:34] Xarai: but /z is more often used
[2012-05-02 22:00:34] imphoebe: yeah ive always used z
[2012-05-02 22:00:43] Xarai: i used /z since i was pupil
[2012-05-02 22:00:44] imphoebe: yea?
[2012-05-02 22:00:46] lordocraftmine: he didnt know triangle or shpere
[2012-05-02 22:00:50] lordocraftmine: or torus
[2012-05-02 22:00:51] imphoebe: meeee toooooo
[2012-05-02 22:00:57] lordocraftmine: he barly knew lava
[2012-05-02 22:01:04] Xarai: personally i like builds that arent drawn
[2012-05-02 22:01:15] imphoebe: no he listed a bunch of commands that he 'knew'
[2012-05-02 22:01:15] > but he

[2012-05-02 22:01:18] imphoebe: know them
[2012-05-02 22:01:26] imphoebe: didnt know them*

[2012-05-02 22:01:38] lordocraftmine: yeah he didnt know how to use them
[2012-05-02 22:01:53] imphoebe: it got to a point where he didnt even know what he
[2012-05-02 22:01:53] > was doing

[2012-05-02 22:02:02] Xarai: so u just wanted him to know how to speed build?
[2012-05-02 22:02:06] lordocraftmine: then second you get promoed you should learn
[2012-05-02 22:02:06] > the new commands
[2012-05-02 22:02:23] lordocraftmine: xar he didnt know commands like /up
[2012-05-02 22:02:25] Xarai: actually when i ranked i learned mod commands to help
[2012-05-02 22:02:33] imphoebe: im not going to discuss this anymore
[2012-05-02 22:02:58] Xarai: they always jump to /up
[2012-05-02 22:02:59] imphoebe: its not all about that
[2012-05-02 22:03:18] lordocraftmine: its pointless agrueing with you cause youll
[2012-05-02 22:03:18] > never accept anything but your own truth
[2012-05-02 22:03:29] Xarai: yes well builds get griefed sometimes with /up
[2012-05-02 22:03:29] imphoebe: dont ever argue with an expert
[2012-05-02 22:03:33] imphoebe: you cant win
[2012-05-02 22:03:47] lordocraftmine: imp hed argue with doom if he felt like it
[2012-05-02 22:03:50] Xarai: if i was grandmaster i would welcome a small debate
[2012-05-02 22:03:55] imphoebe: ha
[2012-05-02 22:03:57] imphoebe: good one
[2012-05-02 22:04:03] Xarai: i welcome debates from pupils
[2012-05-02 22:04:03] lordocraftmine: most grandmasters do
[2012-05-02 22:04:15] Xarai: i rather someome show they care for rules
[2012-05-02 22:04:20] imphoebe: LOL
[2012-05-02 22:04:26] lordocraftmine: -_- doom didnt get mad when i corrected his
[2012-05-02 22:04:26] > grammer
[2012-05-02 22:04:27] Xarai: and fairness
[2012-05-02 22:04:31] imphoebe: LOOOOL
[2012-05-02 22:04:32] imphoebe: ok
[2012-05-02 22:04:45] Xarai: being a highyer rank should mean respect experience
[2012-05-02 22:04:45] > and k
[2012-05-02 22:04:50] Xarai: knowledge

[2012-05-02 22:05:06] Xarai: most experts have that down pat
[2012-05-02 22:05:10] lordocraftmine: andd........... doom and zhuge dont show
[2012-05-02 22:05:10] > that?
[2012-05-02 22:05:24] from VoltageXXII: wait did he just disrespect most experts?
[2012-05-02 22:05:28] Xarai:doom and zhuge are wayyy over that
[2012-05-02 22:05:39] Xarai: they on god lvl lol
[2012-05-02 22:05:46] imphoebe: xarai, if/when you become adept then you can be a
[2012-05-02 22:05:46] > part of the decision process. for now your opinion is noted
[2012-05-02 22:05:46] > but not nessicary. i suggest that you stop talking before you
[2012-05-02 22:05:46] > say something you regret
[2012-05-02 22:05:57] lordocraftmine: and their the most common gm's on here
[2012-05-02 22:06:04] to VoltageXXII: oh yeah
[2012-05-02 22:06:07] Xarai: actually ill take it up with a real expert
[2012-05-02 22:06:10] imphoebe: LOL
[2012-05-02 22:06:11] Xarai: so duely noted
[2012-05-02 22:06:16] Xarai: end discussion
[2012-05-02 22:06:18] VoltageXXII: you saying the experts don't repect anyone is
[2012-05-02 22:06:18] > just disrespectful to them
[2012-05-02 22:06:18] lordocraftmine: go take it up with shep
[2012-05-02 22:06:33] Xarai: lord im done
[2012-05-02 22:06:56] lordocraftmine: you dont tell and expert or any higher rank
[2012-05-02 22:06:56] > end of disscusion they tell you
[2012-05-02 22:07:03] imphoebe: amen
[2012-05-02 22:07:12] Xarai: no
[2012-05-02 22:07:16] Xarai: depends on the topic
[2012-05-02 22:07:31] lordocraftmine: like the level of disrespect i watch you
[2012-05-02 22:07:31] > give i jaw dropinhg
[2012-05-02 22:07:37] lordocraftmine: is*
[2012-05-02 22:07:46] [Spectate]: to lordocraftmine: the lvl of disrespect you
[2012-05-02 22:07:46] > showing is astonishing
[2012-05-02 22:08:06] lordocraftmine: i wonder how your not demoted to novice @xar
[2012-05-02 22:08:06] > YOUR ON THE SAME LEVEL AS ME!
[2012-05-02 22:08:21] lordocraftmine: how can i show you disrespect xar
[2012-05-02 22:08:21] [Spectate]: /info lordocraftmine
[2012-05-02 22:08:27] lordocraftmine: you dont respect me
[2012-05-02 22:08:37] lordocraftmine: or much of anyone for that matter
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hello

Post  Xarai on Tue May 08, 2012 9:35 am

I cut that up imp so people can see the key points sorry if I shouldnt have


[2012-05-02 21:53:21] Xarai: lord im defending someone whom i believe was wrongly
[2012-05-02 21:53:22] Xarai: demoted

[2012-05-02 21:55:18] imphoebe: ya know,
[2012-05-02 21:55:31] imphoebe: its really not your business
[2012-05-02 21:55:43] Xarai: po as an artisan its my business
[2012-05-02 21:55:44] imphoebe: when youre adept, then it is
[2012-05-02 21:55:53] lordocraftmine: xar dont talk to me about it take it up with
[2012-05-02 21:55:53] > doom see how far you get
[2012-05-02 21:55:55] Xarai: as an artisan it directly affects me
[2012-05-02 21:56:19] Xarai: i liek to see everyone here get along and help
[2012-05-02 21:56:34] imphoebe: well the desicions were made
[2012-05-02 21:56:40] imphoebe: and you were not part of the process
[2012-05-02 21:56:44] lordocraftmine: xar fran dammed himself cause hes been
[2012-05-02 21:56:49] imphoebe: because it doesnt concern you

[2012-05-02 21:57:39] lordocraftmine: he should have just shut up and accepted it


[2012-05-02 21:58:15] Xarai: im not sayin he didn deserve the demote
[2012-05-02 21:58:21] Xarai: im sayin th reason stated
[2012-05-02 21:58:32] lordocraftmine: THEN WHY ARGUE
[2012-05-02 21:58:42] Xarai: the reason
[2012-05-02 21:58:46] lordocraftmine: who give a rats tail what the writen reason
[2012-05-02 21:58:46] > was
[2012-05-02 21:58:52] Xarai: lord if u was demoted for i dunno
[2012-05-02 21:59:00] Xarai: imp didn like ur name

[2012-05-02 21:59:28] Xarai: i would defend u
[2012-05-02 21:59:39] Xarai: however if u was demoted for breaking rules i wudnt

[2012-05-02 22:03:29] imphoebe: dont ever argue with an expert
[2012-05-02 22:03:33] imphoebe: you cant win
[2012-05-02 22:03:50] Xarai: if i was grandmaster i would welcome a small debate
[2012-05-02 22:03:55] imphoebe: ha
[2012-05-02 22:03:57] imphoebe: good one
[2012-05-02 22:04:03] Xarai: i welcome debates from pupils
[2012-05-02 22:04:15] Xarai: i rather someome show they care for rules
[2012-05-02 22:04:20] imphoebe: LOL
[2012-05-02 22:04:27] Xarai: and fairness
[2012-05-02 22:04:31] imphoebe: LOOOOL
[2012-05-02 22:04:45] Xarai: being a highyer rank should mean respect experience
[2012-05-02 22:04:50] Xarai: knowledge
[2012-05-02 22:05:06] Xarai: most experts have that down pat
[2012-05-02 22:05:10] lordocraftmine: andd........... doom and zhuge dont show
[2012-05-02 22:05:10] > that?
[2012-05-02 22:05:24] from VoltageXXII: wait did he just disrespect most experts?
[2012-05-02 22:05:28] Xarai:doom and zhuge are wayyy over that
[2012-05-02 22:05:39] Xarai: they on god lvl lol
[2012-05-02 22:05:46] imphoebe: xarai, if/when you become adept then you can be a
[2012-05-02 22:05:46] > part of the decision process. for now your opinion is noted
[2012-05-02 22:05:46] > but not nessicary. i suggest that you stop talking before you
[2012-05-02 22:05:46] > say something you regret

[2012-05-02 22:06:07] Xarai: actually ill take it up with a real expert
[2012-05-02 22:06:10] imphoebe: LOL
[2012-05-02 22:06:56] lordocraftmine: you dont tell and expert or any higher rank
[2012-05-02 22:06:56] > end of disscusion they tell you
[2012-05-02 22:07:03] imphoebe: amen
[2012-05-02 22:07:16] Xarai: depends on the topic
[2012-05-02 22:07:31] lordocraftmine: like the level of disrespect i watch you
[2012-05-02 22:07:31] > give i jaw dropinhg
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Post  imph on Tue May 08, 2012 7:09 pm

not necessary but ok
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